Tuesday, July 22, 2008

Victim called an attacker.

This one from FOX News:

A bottle of hydrochloric acid was stolen from the back of a pool supplies van and thrown on a pregnant woman and her partner in a horrific attack in an Adelaide suburb today.

Witnesses said the woman, 19, and her partner, 28, had walked from the Centrelink office in Oaklands Park and became involved in an argument with a third person - a male described as aged 16 or 17 - at about 1.50pm.

It is understood the six-months pregnant woman and/or her partner started throwing blocks of concrete at the other male, Adelaide Now reported.

He retaliated by stealing a bottle of hydrochloric acid from the back of the van, which was parked in the same street. The driver of the van, who was also leaving the Centrelink office, happened to recognize the male who was having concrete thrown at him and offered to help drive him from the scene.

"But before I knew it, the acid was taken from the van," the driver, who did not wish to be named, said.

"How much acid the woman had poured on her I'm not sure, it all happened so quickly."

The woman and her partner, from Sturt, were taken by ambulance to Flinders Medical Centre suffering from acid burns.

The woman had burns to her right arm.

Their immediate condition is not known but the injuries are not life-threatening, police said.

A 13-year-old witness described the man who fled from the scene as wearing black shorts and running through the car park of the nearby Bunnings store.

"I could hear all of this screaming and yelling coming from the car park and then people were running everywhere to help this woman," he said.

"There was a lot of panic and before I knew it there were two police cars and two ambulances." The offender, who is known to the victims, has not yet been caught.

Ok, now as horrible as it must have been for a pregnant woman to have acid thrown on her. She and her "partner" were throwing concrete blocks at the person that threw the acid. I cannot fathom how the teenager that did this is being called the attacker and this girl and her "partner" are being called victims.

Lets take a look at this a bit:
  • Argument between two parties. Check
  • One party escalates the confrontation and starts using deadly force. Check
  • The other party retaliates with deadly force. Check
Sounds like a clear case of self defense to me. In fact, in most places that value freedom (most of the US), the person that had concrete blocks thrown at him would have been 100% justified in drawing a pistol and shooting both of his attackers dead on the spot.

The only thing that I can see that could make the person getting attacked by two people that were hurling deadly objects at him would be if he was a willing participant in the confrontation or if he had thrown the acid at them after they had stopped being a threat to him. Perhaps there is more to this story, but as it is written (and I have checked both the Australian news and the news from the town it happened in, this seems like a case of self defense to me.

At least it would be in a country that allowed self defense.

1 comment:

doug in colorado said...

Uh...no. Are you joking?
Throwing acid on a pregnant woman, or a woman in general, or a man, is not legitimate self defense...it's an attempt to disfigure and maim, not to stop the assault. Especially not after the van driver offered him a clear means of escape...
not self defense, and acid is not "deadly force" intended to stop an attacker, not when he had an opportunity to run.